User blog:Peachygotit-Kica/Concert Pages

Okay, right now I think that every single concert page should just have an "Article Stub" category template on it. There are so many issues with pages like those right now, I could scream. Yesterday, I was thinking about this, and decided to make a journal about it instead of just going through the work of writing a whole outline.

1st things first, the titles. (This blog post isn't done. I'll have to finish it later. I was rushed by the time I was at the Trivia part).
 * 1) The titles should always be the way the Kanji for the title of the concert is read. For example, モーニング娘. コンサート2003”15人で NON STOP！ is read as Morning Musume Concert Tour 2003 "15nin de NON STOP!" and thus is the title of the page. It is not Morning Musume Concert Tour 2003 "15-member NON STOP!", the translation of the page because the translation isn't the name of the concert it is the TRANSLATION of the concert. They're different.
 * 2) *An example of a title that wouldn't work (because it was translated and thus isn't really the name of the concert, just the meaning of what it is actually named), is Morning Musume Concert Tour 2011 Spring New Genesis Fantasy DX ~Welcome 9th generation members~. That entire title is translated (except the "Morning Musume Concert Tour 2011" part). Here is the Kanji for the page title: モーニング娘. コンサートツアー2011春 新創世記 ファンタジーDX ～9期メンを迎えて～. Now, tell me if you see Kana for anything like "New Genesis Fantasy DX ~Welcome 9th Generation Members~". Go ahead, I'll let you Google it. Of course you don't see that! Because the real title is 新創世記 ファンタジーDX ～9期メンを迎えて～ otherwise known as Shin Souseki Fantasy DX ~9ki Mem wo Mukaete~. Now, I think the "9ki" can be put as "9th generation" and the "mem" as "members" because "mem" I think sounds like an abbreviation for the word "members". That's my opinion.
 * 3) *Many pages have a small thing such as "秋" being worded as the translation of the word, Autumn or Fall, instead of how the Kanji is actually read, Aki.
 * 4) The information following should be the title reiterated in bold and then the Kanji (and translation in italics following a semicolon if available) in parenthesis beside it. Example: "Morning Musume Concert Tour 2011 Haru Shin Souseki Fantasy DX ~9ki Mem wo Mukaete~ (モーニング娘. コンサートツアー2011春 新創世記 ファンタジーDX ～9期メンを迎えて～; 2011 Spring New Genesis Fantasy DX ~Welcome 9th Generation Members~)".
 * 5) *Additional imformation should be added concerning the time of year, first appearances, absences, graduations, etc. Example: "Morning Musume Concert Tour 2011 Aki Ai Believe ~Takahashi Ai Graduation Memory Special~ is Morning Musume's 2011 Fall concert tour, and is the last concert tour of Morning Musume leader Takahashi Ai. 5th Generation members Ogawa Makoto and Konno Asami appeared as guests at the concert." That's a decent base, listing a graduation and guests, as well as which concert tour it is.
 * 6) *Release dates. Dates on a good number of pages for concerts are often written as "2003.12.26" or "2003-12-26" because it is how the Japanese write their dates. Now, dates aren't translated, they're only a bunch of numbers representing months, years, and days. Thus, it would make more sense to write it as "December 26, 2003" to avoid confusion. If the date had been put as "2004.12.08" instead of "December 7, 2004", those not familiar with the date format might incorrectly think of it as "August 12, 2004". (I made a mistake like that once...)
 * 7) **Release dates should definitely be put on the concert pages. If they're not there, it implies that that concert was not released on DVD. Any additional information is necessary, too. Otherwise, it implies that it was a typical concert tour with no guests, debuts, graduations, absences, etc. Another good reason to include the information on there, so the person reading the page will be like, "Oh! The concert was on May 8, 2011, and released on July 27, 2011! Great, now I know where to get the DVD! It was the first to feature the 9th Gen And look, several dates were cancelled due to the earthquake and tsunami! I never knew that!" Instead of "Hmm... it's their spring 2011 tour, know that already. It's the first to feature the 9th gen, well duh! That's why I came to see this page in the first place! Wait... why isn't there any other information?"
 * 8) And the big controversy starts here. The next heading should state "Tracklist" or "Setlist" to indicate that the next section is describing the layout of the concert and what songs were performed. Here are my opinions of which should be used. Keep in mind that a good majority of these concerts were released on DVD (or VHS for the older ones) and if one were talking about the DVD release, it'll be good to put the heading as "Tracklist" so the people reading will understand. I also know that some concerts don't have a DVD (or VHS) release and therefore doesn't have a tracklist, that'll be a time to put "Setlist" as the heading.
 * 9) The numbered lists themselves are a huge issue on the concert pages.
 * 10) *FORMATTING SHOULD BE IN NUMBER LISTS NOT IN BULLET POINTS. INCLUDING MCs.
 * 11) *Something like this should be first at most concert setlists/tracklists: "Opening (オープニング)".
 * 12) *Something like this should be somewhere near the top of the list: "VTR - Member Introduction".
 * 13) *I can't list how many concert pages are formatted like this: "まっさらブルージーンズ (Massara Blue Jeans)". You have no idea how annoying that is. I'm like: "Cool! C-ute's 2006 cutie circuit! I wonder what songs were performed! *scrolls down* Wait, what's 即 抱きしめて? I don't understand Kanji! What's that song!? *Looks to right* Oh, it's (Soku Dakishimete). Oh, well that's dumb, why didn't they just put it on the left? This is a Wiki in English, right?
 * 14) *When listing the members that performed a certain song in the concert (like Airi and Chisato and Mai performed First Kiss in the concert), then it should be put like this like in every other page: "FIRST KISS - Suzuki Airi, Okai Chisato, Hagiwara Mai ". This one has so many variations, I think it changes with every page. I don't think it matters if the part is there or not, as long as it's indicated with a "-" and the names followed afterwards (FULL NAMES not Chisato, not Okai, not Chisa. It's Okai Chisato). The name does not go in parenthesis (a non-fan might be confused when both the names and Kanji are in parenthesis),
 * 15) **One more thing, when listhing back up dancers or some sort of supporting member in the song it should look like this: "FIRST KISS - Suzuki Airi, Okai Chisato, Hagiwara Mai (Back-Up Dancers: Nakajima Saki, Umeda Erika) ". Indicating that a certain member is performing with the regular performer, it should be, "FIRST KISS - Aa! with Hagiwara Mai ".
 * 16) *When describing what is happening at an MC, it should be like this: "MC - Explanation of Sayashi Riho's return, Mitsui Aika's abscence and Takahashi Ai's thoughts. ". Does that look familiar? Maybe how all the songs are formatted. If it's done the same, then those reading will understand, "Oh, these two members perform Kono Ai Wa Kasanete and then they go into an MC".
 * 17) **The name of the MC itself is completely different. If the name of the MC is "Tension Ageko's Corner", then it should be "MC2 Tension Ageko's Corner (テンション上げ子のコーナー)". The "Tension Ageko's Corner" part isn't in small because it isn't describing the MC, it's the actual name of the MC.
 * 18) *Encore. The Encore shoule be written exactly like this: "Encore" in that exact format below the setlist/tracklist and it should not be numberlisted.The tracks for the encore should be listed below in your typical numberlist.
 * 19) *MEDLEYS should be in the format as seen on this page: Morning Musume Concert Tour 2010 Autumn Rival Survival. Isn't it beautiful? Exactly like that. If there's a specific name for the Medley (for example Special Medley or Hit Medley), then it should be as follows: "Special Medley:"
 * 20) Trivia, things listed in the trivia should be fun facts about the concert not already mentioned. Like, if Konno Asami graduated earlier but came back for that specific concert to give a graduation message to a graduating member, put that there. If Buono! spun T-shirts during a song, put that there, etc.
 * 21) Members Featured. You don't know how many pages forget this. But, put it in your typical format under the Trivia. See a Petit Best page for reference if you must. There can't be much that can be messed up in this. but add it if a page doesn't have it.
 * 22) And then a chart of concert dates, if avaiable goes on the bottom. You have no idea how many different variations on the charts there are.